yea still think im either going smn or drgoon maybe both :p

is scholar before summonor or another tier 2 class

Scholar is pretty sure to be arch + conj while summoner should be arch + thurm, both should be out at early release at least, hearing different opinions whether they will be out for open beta but probably will then too.

The way it works is once you get ACN to 30 (and a sub class to 15) you can do the quest for either SMN or SCH, or both.

You can think of jobs as basically talent trees from other games. The armoury system just isn't fully fleshed out so we're not seeing the full scope yet. So when they add new jobs it will be the same thing. Multiple jobs will branch off of one class and you'll be able to switch between them by changing your job stone.

You won't actually level the job itself, you'll level the class. And then for the jobs you can quest to unlock their skills every 5 class levels.

Class vs. Job base stat comparison:




From this site: http://valk.dancing-mad.com/
Has a bunch of damage calculators and stuff.

Phase 4 beta starts 17th/August and ends 19th/August
Beta phase 3 players can start one day early on the 16th/August
Early access starts on the 24th/August, no down time between early access and launch
Level cap is 20 in phase 4.
Arcanist available in phase 4
Fishing profession available in phase 4
Coliseum PVP will be in phase 4
Scholar confirmed to be healer role
Payment options Crysta, credit card, 30 day and 60 day game cards confirmed
Fee based world transfer service confirmed (available 2-3 weeks from launch)
Free of charge smartphone apps (named Libra Eorzea) confirmed. Shows character stats, all abilities, quests, crafting materials, and basically all information about the game. Available 1 week after launch for iOS and 3-4 weeks after launch for Android.
No item transfer between same account and same server available.
Barber shop not available at launch, In the barber shop you can change hairstyle, hair colour, face tattoo, face paint, face paint colour and beard.
Seasonal events confirmed (Xmas & new years confirmed so far), with season-themed gear obtainable
Snowman gear confirmed (lol)
Fire resistant swimsuit gear confirmed
New Eorzea 2013 Collection Video (Mob version)
Phase 4 data will not be wiped unless a game breaking bug is discovered. Stop asking.
Crystal Tower 24 man raid confirmed (not available at launch)
Primals finishing moves confirmed to be changing
No /tell allowed in raids.
Duty finder to be expanded over time.
Extreme difficulty setting confirmed for primals and dungeons
Unicorn mount confirmed, for white mages! (<3)
Other unique mounts for different jobs available
Character gender and race effects mount sitting pose
Leviathan confirmed
Free companies earn points when members complete quests
EXP bonuses and other bonuses confirmed for free company members
Mob themed furniture for player housing confirmed (craftable?)
Marriage system confirmed (ick)
Molbol battle confirmed
Darklight armour for WHM confirmed
Player housing not reliant on GC city, houses can be in any city
Job quests can be completed solo
After launch (patch 2.1) there will be better rewards for those who choose to join random dungeon in duty finder

Veteran reward system

Reward for subscribing 30 days:
- Wind-up Cursor (minion)
- Phial of Fantasia (Used to change the appearance of your character)

Reward for subscribing 60 days:
- Cascadier Uniform Voucher (Grants black “heat resistant gear”)
- A Black Chocobo Chick (minion)

Rewards for subscribing 90 days:
- Beady Eye (Ahriman minion)
- Voidsent Resonator (Ahriman mount)

Yeah I'm kind of disappointed they nerfed the crystal tower to cater to the casual crowd. But they did also say they will have hard and extreme modes for level 50 dungeons. They also said The Labyrinth of Bahamut would be the hardest content in the game, so there's still hope.

kimo why you no vent with us on vent